Thanks this will help my golf game so much now. So next time the announcer says that someone is hitting a 5 iron from 223, keep in mind that its mostly conditions, and note where the ball actually carries. Scotty Squareback and Odyssey OG #7, Srixon ZX5 MKII Irons 4-PW Like New and a Titleist U505 4 Iron, OG Nike TW13 PING i59 irons Vessel Stand bag (trade). Thanks for posting. 1700 Broadway, Floor 29, New York, NY 10019, 2020 Justin Thomas. The goals of the Justin Thomas Foundation reflect the altruistic aspirations of the Thomas family. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Clubhead Speed - 125[/background][/size][/color] By understanding simple averages and probabilities, a golfer can choose the best club and target for each shot. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] I think you wish you hit it further. For years, Justin has quietly used his fame and financial wherewithal to help many. The TrackMan Combine data collected from over 10,000 golfers of all levels from around the world will be used to analyze his performance in hopes of better understanding where improvement(s) can be made. Either way I don't care. Their delivery will be erratic and Vokey is a bladed wedge which offers little help in the forgiveness department. [Note If you are interested in what drivers and fairway woods the top 100 PGA Tour players are using check out the in-depth analysis we have done here.]. And for those golfers looking to make more substantial improvements to their game, the TrackMan Combine provides a roadmap for the improvement journey and accurate, immediate feedback at all checkpoints / stops along the way. I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. Ball Speed- 176.38 average, 179.45 high Its important to know what grass you play, what course you play (be it links or parkland) and how you deliver the club at impact (steep or shallow). What is evident is you obviously don't play with good amateur players. Mike Austins Secret Release Move to Multiply Your Clubhead Speed. All too many golfers go to the course and hit every shot in the hope its the best shot theyve ever hit. Unlock the POWER Muscles in Your Golf Swing! any 7 iron data ? Through such initiatives as the Justin Thomas Youth of the Year Leadership Academy with the Boys & Girls Club of Kentuckiana, USA Cares and the First Tee, Justin is committed to showing compassion, displaying kindness, and making a difference in the world. I agree with you 100%. I would say probably is bs. Justin is committed to showing benevolence and grace to children in need, with the goal of bolstering their confidence, strengthening their determination, and allowing them great possibilities. Add That Little Extra Limited is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees (at no cost to you) by linking to Amazon.com. I appreciate that. Most golfers I know are happy to drive the ball 200 yards and keep it in the fairway. Unless you're using the ball you play with every round, in the different conditions you play in, the numbers on the Trackman are null and void. Most of my longer clubs only just creep above the 200 yd mark. http://web.tigerwoods.com/onTour/seasonStatistics. TaylorMade Stealth+ 8 w/ PX Handcrafted Prototype EvenFlow Black 65 6.5, TaylorMade SIM ROCKET 14.5 w/ PX Handcrafted EvenFlow Black 75 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 18 Tour Issue w/ PX Handcrafted EvenFlow Black 75 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Rescue 3-19 w/ PX RDX Smoke 90 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Rescue 4-22 w/ PX RDX Smoke 90 6.5, Srixon ZX7 6-AW w/ Nippon Modus Tour125 Stiff That is why you will find some pros wedges measured up to 0.5 or even 0.25 when listed and it is also likely that some of the actual strengths of the wedge lofts they use may in reality be stronger (i.e. I cant say I noticed the lower ball flight but this is something that Titleist have worked on gradually for the last few generations. The next table uses the approach distances from the previous and calculates the proximity to hole. [quote name='Hamish777' timestamp='1364356541' post='6704153'] f[yZ3 /=KCYOSg~VN@ ae@.Xq@U$ Q\8H`/ 9Hj: .1xq The fairways where I play are very firm and I get a fair amount of roll. These 23 heads are available in three finishes: Jet Black, Tour Chrome and Brushed Steel. Overall I cant fault these wedges for an elite player as we are aware of the slight differences of feel at strike, flight and contact with the ground. You've given me a good laugh for two days now. A lot of guys come from athletic backgrounds too, and maybe took up the game at an older age. I don't play professional golf. [/quote] [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] Driver: GolfWRX is on the ground in Orlando ahead of the 2023 Arnold Palmer Invitational at Bay Hill Club & Lodge. Hes learned nothing Olympic legend launches scathing attack on Tiger Woods over tampon apology, Golf fans left bemused following bizarre Jim Nantz blunder, Best driver 2023: Expert club fitters recommend the best driver for your swing speed, An UP-CLOSE look at Tiger Woods famous Scotty Cameron putter, David Feherty ridiculed for Greg Norman comment during LIV broadcast, Tour pro says LIV would be done if Brooks Koepka returned to PGA Tour, TOUR REPORT: McIlroy switches drivers during Genesis Invitational (plus Tigers iron change). [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Ratio - 1.48[/background][/size][/color] [b]Tiger Woods[/b] Tiger hits his 3-iron a carry distance of 240 yards on average while his 4-iron goes 225 yards and 5-iron 210 yards. Before when I opened the club face I presented too much leading edge, but due to the high bounce and shape with the M grind this doesnt happen. The above statements were [i]only[/i] about length. I know his swing speed with driver is up around 120mph but thats all they seem to show on tv. Feel free toshare your thoughts and experience in the comment section below. Anyone remember young Guan the 14 year old at Augusta he was so small he could only drive it 250 but did alright. Short hitter compared to the average WRXer Having the ability to hit it the ball as far as they can has nothing to do with me thinking highly of myself. The Justin Thomas Foundation positively impacts children in need, junior golf, and military families with the intent of helping all achieve their full potential. This course setup for the AMA is assuming a perfectly optimal drive by the golfer so in theory 395 yards would be a maximum length for the AMA based on 50% GIR. Book a Session for only R500 to get your Swing Analysis. He is 180 ball speed off the driver with outstanding launch numbers. Those numbers seem about right. Not uncommon these days for elite swing speed Thanks. Too many people walking around either who hit one drive at 300 a round and the rest slice 100 yards that only go 200 straight trying to tell people how great they are at golf when in reality they take like 6 mulligans a round or guys that are actually really good think that they are the norm when in reality they are a small minority and golf would not even exist if it were not for guys like me . Firstly there is really no need to play an 8 iron that long, secondly why on earth would you play nothing but trap draws especially with short iron Trackman is pretty interesting, obviously path and angle of attack change depending on the shot your trying to shape. I have a terrible slice that knocks A LOT of yards off of my drive. Required fields are marked *. They are clean and contemporary. But the guys with a great wedge and not great length still hack it on tour because they have what matters. The false fronts, forced carries, and deep protecting bunkers are too difficult for the AMA to deal with. get up and down 3 out of the 5 times you miss the green makes all the difference. Another added complication when it comes to comparing the distances that the pros hit their wedges is the differing lofts each of them often carries for seemingly the same club. Sometimes I will hit a 270 once or twice a round maybe and then two or three more at 240, but I will mix in a few bad ones at 190 with a hook or a slice and the rest will be at least 215 to 220. 398 were here. I feel like Seve in the sand these days which is never a bad thing. Driver 6 Iron Brooks Koepka Related Posts Erik Van Rooyen Driver Numbers Sei Young Other top articles related to this topic: Graeme Hay is the owner of GolfingFocus.com. Elite level Trackman Golf Coaching from Expert & Award winning coaches, Scott and Jamie Howarth. I've seen plenty of tour pros hit balls & played with many good golfers. Full details on the new TSR2 and TSR3 here! Heat treatment This treatment is now applied to the impact areas of the face to increase durability. SM5 53, 59 Once you except your limitations, you can get out and enjoy the game we LOVE instead of loathing it. My average driver distance over 2 full rounds it 223 yards and that includes the one or two bad shots off the box that only goes 100 plus yards just above the red Ts . Youd be correct and that is why its always best to get fitted and discuss purchases with your pro. I think you wish you hit it further. (Unimpededof course, because we always were able to play during the week). It's good for some laughs. However the pros have what is called a stock yardage for their irons, which equates essentially to the average distance they will hit a full shot with each iron swinging normally. [/quote] If length was a determing factor for professional status then we'd have the Wedge players tour and not the Long Drivers tour. F rom the comfort of your sofa or if youre lucky, alongside the ropes each major championship gives you a chance to see the biggest hitters in the world unsheathe their drivers and swing away. But you also have to add in the slight mishits, the rainy days, and the balls that land in the rough. However don't be overwhelmed, the good news is that there is only one set up choice in the PW, two in the GW and multiple in SW and LW due to the wider range of shorter shots you play with these clubs. [/quote] The plan is to include this type of information within TrackMan University in the future, but that is likely many months away at this point. It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out. Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400. [/quote] For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. In the bag I think the wedges looks great. Top 100 PGA Tour Player Analysis, What Clubs Do LPGA players use? [quote name='baseballfrk8998' timestamp='1364403832' post='6707431'] Not at all. I seem to have the same speed as pro women and they are playing the same distances that I am but scoring way way lower with a game built from precision over speed. As you can see, 45% have a club speed between 91 and 100 mph., The AMA is far from efficient with his driver. The numbers posted above are cool to me because you can see Tiger hits balls on the range like he does on the course. This informative information was more helpful for golfers. link to What Irons Do the Pros Use? Apex Height 112' 11" While it would be easy to quietly continue his good deeds, the time is right to establish a foundation that can partner with others to positively impact countless philanthropic organizations and communities, and deliver even more good in the world. 4 -PW: Callaway Apex MB, KBS $ taper 130X, Wedges - Jaws raw 50, 54, 59 KBS $ taper 130x, Putter- Odyssey Vesa 12 center stroke lab shaft. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. When you account for factors such as wind, elevation, ground conditions and also the context in which the shot is being played Koepka, like all the pros, has a number of options for each iron shot which makes the question of how far he hits each iron a bit more complex than at first you may think. also his AoD on the stinger. What a great read with invaluable data and information. How to Hit Massive Drives! Shafts: KBS Tour 125 S+, Wedges: TaylorMade Milled Grind 3 (50-09SB, 54-11SB, 60-08LB) A look at Brooks Koepkas yardage book below gives us a great insight into this and highlights how many types of shots pros can play with their irons. G.O.A.T.? Trap draw? That's not Justin, that's Johnny. Cobra Radspeed 5W RDX Blue, Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4i Tour AD DI Club Head Speed 119.55 I think this is very interesting but misleading. I know what you are thinking, there is a lot that goes into making a wedge. I like to look at his averages on the tour seems to be more realistic data that is actually in play on tour. Of course, playing shorter courses seems very obvious if you want to improve performance. I shared the dispersion plot with our local club committee who are thinking of installing trackman after redeveloping several holes, and was asked questions along these lines: 1. The AMA is far from efficient with his driver. WebSee how The Honda Classic Justin Thomas Trackman numbers look https://blog.trackmangolf.com/justin-thomas-trackman-numbers/ What I find funny is the number of people on here that think it's ridiculous that an amateur golfer claims to have similar numbers to a professional. You can check the combine driver stats here: https://mytrackman.com/#combine. Dear Claeys, We highly recommend you to visit a TrackMan coach or fitter close to you, as there are many individual aspects to your question. And as it is highly unlikely even the best pros in the world never want to hit their driver as far as they can so it is clearly the club we are going to get the best idea of the maximum distance they hit the ball. There is a very obvious relationship between these two variables. The following graph shows the distribution of AMA Driver club speeds. Brooks Koepka, winner of the US Open 2017 and 2018. Probably because he plays a higher spin ball than most. It's good for some laughs. To help however answer the question as well as we can the table below shows the varying distances some of the top pros, including Tiger Woods, Rory McIlroy and Dustin Johnson, are hitting their wedges, together with the degrees of loft their clubs are listed at. #TeamTrackMan Course length, driver optimization, and course strategy are three key components to improving the performance of the AMA. Bilan, I think you should rub one out before you get to first tee box. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. ;9#I 'S2G4Mi]JE Progressive Centre of Gravity - Maintaining the lower CG in the stronger lofts, while raising CG even further in the more lofted clubs. That's what I think. I think you wish you hit it further. They hit 52 gap wedges a stock carry distance of between 126 and 135 yards and carry 56 sand wedges an average distance of 119 to 124 yards. [/quote] That's what I think. The data results given in this article are completely skewed. With a collection of prestigious wins, including the 2017 FedExCup, 2017 PGA Championship, 2021 PLAYERS and 2022 PGA Championship, Justin Thomas is known to many as a celebrated professional on the PGA TOUR. [url="http://www.rotaryswing.com/golf-instruction/golfequipment/golf-launch-monitor.php"]http://www.rotaryswinch-monitor.php[/url] Ping Glide 2.0 (54) DG S400 TI I guess if you don't play with guys that are good, it's understandable. The wedge glided through the turf and nipped the ball at impact, resulting in reliable soft strikes. I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. #:>PC"ljTTZ!@8[+D py"4]F: }X@`*0gIiF1|fv3cp{c?9EkD!j> Jon has proven that he is able to compete at the I can't seem to find them. How Far Does a 3 Wood vs 5 Wood Go? I also shot 86. Yes! If it's a really short par 4, I will hit an iron, hybrid, or fairway wood to play to that ideal distance range. And I suppose they hit it relatively far, but nearly the distances that the public thinks. I, and many amateur golfers I play with on a regular basis, have the ability to hit the ball a long way. i suggested he play white from the start and he is happy. Is a soft ball for club head speed of 90 MPH with the driver better than a hard ball? Carry Efficiency 2.51 [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] Optimizing a golfers distance with the driver (using their existing club speed) is an alternative way to effectively shortening a golf course. It is vital for them to know exactly how far they hit their wedges with a variety of different types of shots because feel is so important from those short distances, especially at the top level of the game, where a yard or two can make the difference between winning or losing a tournament. On the LPGA Tour the top pros hit their driver an average of 257.7 yards. Web2/27/2012 Justin Rose COMBINE TEST 1 | TrackMan www.trackman.dk TEST INFO Date:2/27/2012 Name:Justin Rose DOB:7/30/1980 Hcp:+5 Mode:Outdoor Location:Lake Nona Temp:78 F Wind:0-5mph Notes: TOTAL SCORE Driver Statistics (avg.) Does anyone know any of Tiger Woods Trackman data either pitching, irons, 3woods or driver? [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]8.5* Driver[/background][/size][/color] I already use the SM8s and having seen the drop off in spin and different performance of my swing (I am less steep at impact these days) I will be changing wedges. Consistency is Key, Are Driving Range Distances Accurate? [quote name='GooseHook' timestamp='1364385234' post='6705065'] Thats 95 extra yards, putting the actual distance of the drive under neutral conditions around 340 Please include a self-addressed envelope with prepaid postage for return. When we compare these stock yardages for irons between the pros we get a consistent view of yardage which we can accurately compare across the players. Driver: Cobra Amp Cell Pro (8.5 degrees) Not at all. Very unfortunately most of us are too busy with other things we need to do. I was advised to switched to the 8 bounce as my impact is shallower than when I was previously fitted for my SM8s. You can follow GolfWRX on Twitter @GolfWRX, Facebook and Instagram. 6 0 obj This way the material is removed from the face and not spread out which means the grooves are sharper and weight isn't dispersed. [quote name='eddie_max' timestamp='1364438260' post='6711367'] [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] I went into a facility with Trackman launch monitors and have attached Before it is assumed that the AMA should simply club up, actual distances with each club should be determined. Yes, the TrackMan Combine data is extremely valuable for identifying weaknesses that can be improved, but it is just as (arguably more) important for identify strengths that the golfer can play to without having to spend any additional time practicing. [/quote] When you take the wedge out of the bag you notice the fuller toe, and there is more material behind the head. But i attribute most of that to playing with a best friend who was a scratch golfer and showed me theres no need to take longer than 2 hours to play 18 holes. [quote]I don't measure my driver distance. As such, this article will focus on the performance of the average male amateur (AMA). [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] So much so that if I'm 220 out, a distance I can reach with a perfect 5 wood, ill hit to 50, pitch, putt, par and drive you insane. Add Driving Distance by Analyzing the Worlds Longest Driver! I didnt start playing until i was 31 and it was over by 42 yet my handicap was 12. I guess if you don't play with guys that are good, it's understandable. The best distance comparison we have for those clubs is therefore the carry distance. I can say that Trackman is second to none, and its always my first recommendation to others. Try a par 3 course (18 holes) of any length and compare your results to your handicap. As far as a Trackman goes.I've used it once. I also shot 86. 4 out of 1000 swings avg 117 mph? [color=#ff0000]I'd really like to see Tiger's path and face numbers too among others especially seeing how far left he aims at times. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. To make such large scale improvements, we must first better understand the patientin order to diagnose the problems. When it comes to his mid-irons he hits his 6-iron and 7-iron 195 and 180 yards. Tiger Woods Trackman numbers, I thought they were posted on here at one time from an event. But he does not average those. FULL GUIDE By Age, Handicap etc. Hamish777, March 26, 2013 in WRX Club Techs. Absolutely awesome numbers though. Im sure most of them can squeeze out 10 extra yards on every club on this chart. Your email address will not be published. I would guess those numbers are pretty much all-out, perfect contact, carry distances. I feel pretty confidant in saying that those aren't his stoc If I slow it down some and shoot for 280-290, I hit more fairways. Cameron Napa California @ 34"[/b]. In truth, the vast majority of golfers are playing from tees that are too long based on their club speed and skill level. I work in the industry and frequently play with low handicaps who tease me into playing longer yardage (they assume at 63 250 I bomb it) my home course is 7400 from the tips, and this frustratingly puts my score in the mid 90s. Driver: Charles Kelley whats in the bag accurate as of the Pebble Beach Pro-Am. Justin Thomas is one of the most exciting and popular golfers on the PGA TOUR. For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. Its unrealistic for most amateurs to break 100 on courses that share the aforementioned conditions, which is what a lot of the courses of today present. But if you take the averages over a season you are going to get more than a good idea of how far the pros are hitting each club. Many golfers save some money and buy the SM8s and others will upgrade from SM7s to SM9s. The LDA guys can't hang with the short games and are wildly sporadic with their tee shots, hence why they get multiple tries. any 7 iron data ? I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. Justin credits his success on the PGA TOUR to a childhood full of direction, support, and love. The professionals are going to hit the ball on the screws significantly more often than the AMA. 712u 3 I do agree the AMA should be playing much shorter courses than most presently do. Short hitter compared to the average WRXer The average for those golfers was 117 mph. Whats the proportion of shots wide of the mark by say 80 feet or more (or some width for which there is data) 2. More importantly, however, Justins time on the course where his mother and father both worked taught him about responsibility, passion, ethics, camaraderie, and hard work. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. [/quote] The 56 to 62 grooves are wider and shallower for chipping and lob shots. With all the new technology that is now available in Drivers since this article came out, do you plan on updating the information. Am I as good as tour pro? You could hear the thump and it was relentless in its consistency. NOW AVAILABLE: GolfWRX G/Fore Hats and Holderness & Bourne Polos! If you are a right handed player the slice and above numbers could be due to a heel strike. [quote name='markheardjr' timestamp='1364403013' post='6707345'] I don't measure my driver distance. Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 85 S, Irons: Callaway Apex Forged (2021) (4-PW) Just would be interesting to see. Titleist fitting last summer at my home course. I dont want my Vokeys to look different to the past designs, I barely want them to perform differently either as you want reliability around the greens. It was soft in landing rather than quick and checking. How can that be true. %PDF-1.5 [/quote] What I find funny is the number of people on here that think it's ridiculous that an amateur golfer claims to have similar numbers to a professional.
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